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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 1:31:45 PM
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rcjames
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What is it with all these children (baby) hating folks out there.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 3:11:26 PM
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But would this be a child-friendly section or just a "holding pen" for families with children?
...the whole cabin feels like a "holding pen" these days.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 4:04:11 PM
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I think it would be even more ideal if they had family only flights and also flights where children weren't allowed. I know there are plenty of people--myself included--who would pay extra to not have to listen to someone's screaming brat the whole flight. I have no problems with parents who have enough respect for others to keep their kids under control--but the parents who let their kids scream, kick seats, throw tantrums and act as though it is cute and do nothing to stop it--that is irritating.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 4:11:05 PM
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I have no idea...methinks it would be likely the very back of the plane and we'd have very poor service...since it's not just other passengers who are rude to families with small children, but often times it's also the flight attendants too...
Uh, excuse me, but many families with small children are also unintentionally rude to passengers. I was on an overnight flight to Brussels once, and the kids were climbing on my seat while their mother slept.
I finally woke her up and asked her to please stop letting her kids climb on my seat. I hope that waking her up isn't the kind of "rudeness" that many families experience.
At the very least, there should be a section for people who intend to sleep where the flight attendants are all former librarians.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 4:11:43 PM
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I look at the prospect of sitting next to some children who are frightened or usset as an opportunity to show my grandfathering skills and the love of Jesus to the family.
Too much concern about "Me, me, me, me, me" anymore and not enough concern about others who are having a bad day.
The last experience I had along these lines was returning from Korea. There were a lot of moms on the flight with multiple children each. In the beginning it was utter chaos, but soon I had a about 10 of the little children sittting with me or standing around me. The did not speak English and my Korean is really weak. We spoke the language of a loving grandfather and by showing magic tricks, singing songs, making faces etc. we all had a wonderful trip (12 hours or so).
Life and crowded airplanes are what one makes out the situations.
but that might just be me.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 5:23:29 PM
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I look at the prospect of sitting next to some children who are frightened or usset as an opportunity to show my grandfathering skills and the love of Jesus to the family.
Too much concern about "Me, me, me, me, me" anymore and not enough concern about others who are having a bad day.
The last experience I had along these lines was returning from Korea. There were a lot of moms on the flight with multiple children each. In the beginning it was utter chaos, but soon I had a about 10 of the little children sittting with me or standing around me. The did not speak English and my Korean is really weak. We spoke the language of a loving grandfather and by showing magic tricks, singing songs, making faces etc. we all had a wonderful trip (12 hours or so).
Life and crowded airplanes are what one makes out the situations.
but that might just be me.
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RC
If more people were like you I think that plane flights would run much smoother...
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 5:34:24 PM
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I would have a problem with it if I was travelling with well behaved children and was forced to travel in a section with misbehaving children.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 5:50:09 PM
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clag4christ
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I would have a problem with it if I was travelling with well behaved children and was forced to travel in a section with misbehaving children.
I agree with you there as well...
We've had that experience at restaurants. Our children are, like I said before, very well behaved, and it's horrible to be stuck in the 'family' section of an eating establishment with other families whose children are not made to sit still and eat in an appropriate manner.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 6:32:47 PM
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When we've flown as a family of 4 we've been traveling for my husband's work...so we fly in the morning. We have to get there when *he* needs to arrive...and for the record, my children have never and will never be permitted to climb in their seats...
We never joined Dad on business- except for once to Florida, but we took a different flight. Maybe you could schedule a separate flight?
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*I* have a problem with climbing children...but not with crying ones. Plane flights can upset their ears and tummies not to mention that they can be pretty scary because it's usually a brand new situation for them. Crying is a part of life with children. The times when I've flown with my babies when they were nursing I've tried to nurse them on take off and landing to avoid painful ear pressure on their part...but babies and small children cry...
What would a parent who's "not bothering" about a crying child look like?
One who apparently ignores the fact that their child is crying; maybe they are reading, talking with someone, or sleeping. I see this happen with about 1/10-1/4 of parents on the plane.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 7:00:05 PM
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I would have a problem with it if I was travelling with well behaved children and was forced to travel in a section with misbehaving children.
Don't you have to do that already?
I meant in a section with only misbehaving children and/or the majority of the people around being children as opposed to adults that I would expect to be better examples of how to behave to my kids. I personally don't fly anywhere ($$) so it doesn't actually effect me.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 7:06:38 PM
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I personally don't fly anywhere ($$) so it doesn't actually effect me.
Us neither. The cost of flying is DOUBLE almost TRIPLE what it would cost us to drive to the few place we really want to go anyway. We'd love to visit family in Texas, but right now the cost to drive AND the cost to fly are both so high that we just stay put. Guess we won't be bugging anyone!
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 8:57:14 PM
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I would bet...many flight attendants are not parents. The lifestyle would not seem compatable, hence their intrepidation when kids are aboard and their inability to handle them.
As parents, I think in some sence we learn to tune out the bad things our kids do and while they might be offensive to others, we only find them mildly disturbing.
Believe me, I make no excuses for poorly behaving children....anywhere. The grocery store or on a plane if they are old enough to understand no, then they understand how they should act in public.
When we go out, the kids were explained the rules. The rules never changed. No was always no and the kids knew what was acceptable and what was not and when they misbehaved there were consequences.
I don't understand the breast feeding thing in public and probably never will and on a plane? I am sorry but to me if a lady asked if she could breast feed next to me I would suggest...the bathroom for her.
They might just be milk carriers to you, but they are not that to others. I'd take screaming Jimmy over an exposed breast anytime.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 9:53:29 PM
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They might just be milk carriers to you, but they are not that to others. I'd take screaming Jimmy over an exposed breast anytime.
See! Nursing mother can't win! Because SonInMe doesn't want some one nursing nearby, baby thus screams when taking off, because no airline is going to allow Clag to take her nursing baby to the bathroom (and she shouldn't have too! No one else takes their meals in a bathroom sitting on a toilet!) during those moments, thus the baby cries and ticks off blessedinNYC.
Just using names in the thread - but this surely could represent any number of people of differing opinions on nursing babies and air travel.
Maybe the person that said there should be family only flights is right. But only with sections of the plane set aside for nursing mothers and their families, another section for parents with annoying bratty kids and then a section for parents that have very well behaved children that other travelers don't want to travel with simply because something "might" happen to make a child cry. Oh RC - you'd be welcome on all these flights and maybe gain a whole lot of extra "adopted" grandkids, simply because you take the time and show Christ to not only the kids but to their parents as well!
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/16/2008 10:40:13 PM
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I have actually traveled with books and toys to hand to kids to borrow when they are upset. It has always worked, and the parents always liked it. The last time, though, I forgot, but I still told the mom of the boy sitting behind me that he did well, especially considering he wasn't feeling well, and I told her what I usually do, and she said that was nice, but it was ok I didn't that time, cause due to him not feeling well, it might not have helped anyway.
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RE: Special "Children's" Section on Planes... - 8/17/2008 12:50:36 AM
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I'd take screaming Jimmy over an exposed breast anytime.
You would force a child to go hungry rather than close your eyes for the moment or two it takes the mother to get the child situated?
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). I was completely nervous of showing some of my chest and offending the man sitting next to me...it was horrible... 
The plane hadn't even left the gates yet AND my son while excited about his first time on an airplane was not being overly loud or bratty. Nor was he crying or scared. He was looking out the window and had turned to his father and had said "look daddy! Planes!" I don't know who had "requested" we be moved, but I thought it was terribly rude to assume that simply because there was a child sitting nearby that there was going to be a problem. We moved however because I just didn't want to DEAL with someone having a fit over every little thing my child did. The bonus? We had pretty much the entire last 3 rows of the plan to ourselves, AND my ds got a seat that we didn't pay for. 
