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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/12/2008 8:43:54 PM
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Bobby
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I'm still get mad at President Carter when folks bring this up.  All of the athletes worked hard and were ready to go and they were not allowed to compete. Some were able to go on to compete in the 1984 games but for some 1980 was their only shot.
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Kerri's Vault was a big lie.
Please explain this. Kerri landed a vault on an sprained ankle & her team won the gold medal. Where's the lie? Are you talking about when it aired on US television?
Yes. It was a publicised story that the event took place in the heat of the afternoon in the Georgia Dome, and everyone was exiting the Dome after the end of the matches for dinnertime. Many Americans were angry that results were embargoed for hours.
Speaking of the 1984 women's team, three ladies -- Tracee Talavera, Julianne McNamara, and Kathy Johnson -- were on the 1980 team that didn't make it. Talavera was at the heart of the controversy over gymnasts' age, as she would been in the Olympics at 13 years, 11 months. FIG rules at the time required gymnasts to turn 14 by December 31 of the year of competition. Johnson, who was 20 at the time of the boycott, would compete at Wooden Court at 24.
The 1996 issue was the 14-year old was turning 15 later in the year.
There is some issue with the Chinese gymnasts being underage; one gold medal winner for the PRC was underage in 2000 in the sport. Communist nations always had a problem with gymnasts being underage. Romania (as I said earlier, Daniela Silivas admitted it when applying for her marriage licence in Cobb County (GA) where she currently lives), North Korea (team banned from 1993 World Championships when the nation was suspected of altering passports for an underage gymnast who competed at Stuttgart (1989 World Championships), Indy (1991 World Championships) and Barcelona (1992 Olympics) with suspect ages), China, and the USSR have each had underage gymnasts participating in a World Championships or an Olympic Games.
The grossest of them was the 1991 World Championships in Indianapolis, when Kim Kwang Suk, alleged to be 15, appeared and won a few championships at the now-demolished RCA Dome. Béla Károlyi said with her deciduous teeth, there was no way the North Korean gymnast was 15. His charges were true; North Korea was banned from the 1993 World Championships for the fraudulent ages.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/13/2008 12:27:33 PM
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The average weight of the Chinese gymnasts is in the mid 70'slbs, and under 5' tall. The American average weight is 107lbs, practically obese.  Some of them even have curves. It's such a curse of the sport that if you intensely train a girl from the age of 3, then you can get better gymnastics by the time they are 13/14, then if you went easier on them and waited until 16/17. Tiny bodies just do better stuff, if they've been very intensely trained.
I was curious last night when Micheal Phelps looked disgusted/unhappy after winning his 10th overall gold medal. He just beat history right? Well, his goggles had filled with water, basically blinding him to where he was and more importantly, where all the other competitors were. One thing he is known for is knowing exactly where everyone else is, even though his head is only 6 inches above the water for a very short period of time.
Other reasons why he's so good (besides an insane training schedule) is that his body breaks down lactic acid much, much faster then a normal human, so he can recover from intense workouts in a third of the time normal people do. Plus he's got insanely long arms, and he can hold his breath really well, keeping his head under water for longer then most people can.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/14/2008 5:49:15 AM
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I feel sorry for Mary Lou Retton and all the others who won a gold at those games. They'll never know if they could have won at a full Olympics. But it's America's own fault for boycotting the Moscow Olympics.
Ask Mary Lou or Carl Lewis if any of their medals have lost any of their shine! It was a full Olympics IMO. Everyone that decided to come did. Otherwise the Moscow Olympics are severely tainted as well. As for the Soviets, et al, how can we know if they wouldn't have choked as well?
What if can never replace what DID happen!!
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/14/2008 9:54:02 AM
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What if can never replace what DID happen!!
I had a teacher who competed in the Olympics in 1984. She says that while she enjoyed the Olympics, it just didn't feel right with not every team that deserved to be there being there. She's proud of what they accomplished, but she wishes that everyone was there, and she does wonder what if.
To each their own I guess.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/14/2008 10:20:52 AM
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I'm with Lexie. I have heard competitors who won medals at the 1980 Olympics (that'd be the one in Moscow) and felt that it wasn't quite as good as if everyone had been there.
But then I was watching something on tv the other day about the 1908 Olympics and the mens 400m. The race was declared void because it was felt that an American blocked another competitor (which for some insane reason was allowed in American track events but, and rightly so, not British). When it was rereun, the American refusued to run ~ as did 2 other Americans. That left 1 competitor who simply had to turn up and run round the track to win gold.
I have to admit, I wonder how Paul Hamm feels about the gold that he won in 2000.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/14/2008 11:57:54 AM
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in the winter olympics in Lillihammer...the Herminator (Herman Meijer) was doing the downhill slalom, and cut too hard on the first bank, lost control, gained speed, and flipped over 4 fences...hilarious and cringing....mmmm....cringing...
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/15/2008 7:04:00 PM
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That 100m heat with Bolt...
He made it look like he was out for a stroll in the park...
Tomorrow should be exciting ~ pity it's over in 10 seconds!
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/15/2008 9:43:22 PM
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The more accurate description is a dolphin which they are calling him here. Dolphins are a little more graceful.
Or our media is calling him Wonder Boy or Superman or something similar :)
Track and Field has some pretty short races too.
I like how people are mad that he can eat 12,000 calories a day. Well he's a big guy, pure muscle and he trains 5-6 hours a day. Of course an average person can't eat that much.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 6:26:58 AM
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A lot of dietitians strongly suspect that 12,000 calorie number is way overinflated. He still eats a lot, though.
Our media calls him Superman a lot. Just read an article that said if Phelps had a tsunami and a shark that missed breakfast in his way, he'd still find a way to win the race. That was some race, I thought for sure that he'd be getting silver.
Well, good for Micheal. He seems like a decent guy, not that a man's character should have any bearing on whether or not he wins the race. It's pure and simple whoever touches the wall first. (I love gymnastics, but the subjectivity of the sport drives me crazy sometimes.)
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 6:36:13 AM
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It's pure and simple whoever touches the wall first. Well he only just got to the wall first today.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 9:15:45 AM
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And what about Rebecca Adlington winning by 4 or 5 body lengths!
I can imagine she's all over the BBC like Phelps is all over NBC. She broke the longest standing record.
But the Brits have been racking medals up today ~ especially in the velodrome so she's probably not as covered as Phelps, though she is already being called the best British woman swimmer ever. Tomorrows race is going to be exciting.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 9:29:30 AM
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The velodrome is where the cyclists compete, yes? Well, good for them! What will Adlington being competing in tomorrow?
I think Phelps actually has the day off before his last race on Sunday. He didn't even have to swim in semifinals of Sunday's relay. I think the American swim team was trying to give him a break. But the guy who swam his leg in the semis will get a medal, too.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 9:47:51 AM
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The velodrome is where the cyclists compete, yes? Yeppers. I love watching the Olympics (though the location has dampened my enthusiasum this time round) but there are some sports which are just a must. Not so far back a couple of cyclists took themselves off (to Russia) to compete because there was no money and no support (other than by volunteers) given to them ~ they even had to sign their uniform in and out! It was really good to see one of those (Chris Hoy) get his second gold.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 10:55:13 AM
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Yeah Phelps does eat a lot, they showed the restaurants that he eats at here in Ann Arbor and they will be losing his best customer when he moves.
They haven't shown a lot of the cycling here, just a few minutes of coverage but I wasn't staying up all night. We'll see. They barely mentioned Kristin Armstrong (who isn't Lance's ex wife, LOL) who won the time trial.
I do like the gymnastics but I agree about the subjectivity of it.
At least track and field started, I couldn't take anymore volleyball. I don't care about the basketball since we sent half the NBA and I can watch them anytime.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 11:43:34 AM
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Bolt is something else. Wow. I don't think he was even in top gear. He'd be even faster if he kept looking ahead!
And I think he's in the 200m in a few days.
As well he's in the 4x100 relay, so there will be a lot more of him. He is truly amazing!!!
He gave an interview with CBC about why he pulled up at the end, and as he pointed out, you don't know what time you've ran, you just want to know that you're the first one to cross the finish line. He realizes he could have posted a much faster time, but for him it doesn't matter how fast it was as long as he was first.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 2:34:39 PM
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Phelps, Phelps, Phelps.....can anyone can't get enough of this guy?
No, I'm happy that he got the gold, however, it was a shame that Mark Spitz did not get invited to the Olympics and see him break the records.
Secondly, my favorite moment away from Phelps (no relation to Fred) was the U.S. Gymnastic team turned the disapointment of not having that gold medal, in the team competition, and one of its members was disapointed and angry, but she turned it into her advantage by winning the gold in team competiton.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 3:40:38 PM
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I have 2 and will be 3 after tonight when I actually see the 100m final and maybe 4 later next week after the men's 4x100 final. 
1. Veronica Campbell winning JA's 1st olympic gold medal.
2. Michael Johnson running 19.32 in the 200m, back in 96.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 4:02:36 PM
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Michael Johnson running 19.32 in the 200m, back in 96. He's been commentating for the BEEB and they showed him watching the 100m after the race. He was sooooo excited about it all. He was really cool after because he said he was ready to give his record up to Bolt in the 200m.
Now that's sportsmanship!
I'm looking forward to the final of the cycling events tomorrow. The Brits have a gold silver in it ~ just need names on the medals. One of the competitors, Rebecca Romero won silver in Athens ~ in rowing. She will be one of only two competitors (the other was a Canadian) who's won medals at the Olympics in two different sports.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/16/2008 5:37:04 PM
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Derek Redmond's race in the 1992 Olympics is the best ever!! Check it out HERE.
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RE: What is your favorite Olympic moment? - 8/17/2008 2:31:31 PM
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